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Talk it Over With Jesus

Author: James Rowe Appears in 2 hymnals Hymnal Title: Calvin Hymnary Project First Line: If in the valley of trouble you dwell

[If in the valley of trouble you dwell]

Appears in 2 hymnals Composer and/or Arranger: E. S. Lorenz Hymnal Title: United Praise Incipit: 55554 56661 76457 Used With Text: Talk it Over with Jesus

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Author: James Rowe Hymnal: Praise Ye #147 (1913) Hymnal Title: Praise Ye First Line: If in the valley of trouble you dwell Languages: English Tune Title: [If in the valley of trouble you dwell]

Talk it Over with Jesus

Author: James Rowe Hymnal: United Praise #97 (1908) Hymnal Title: United Praise First Line: If in the valley of trouble you dwell Lyrics: 1 If in the valley of trouble you dwell, Talk it over with Jesus; He will advise you, then all will be well; Talk it over with Jesus. Refrain: Talk it over with Jesus! Over and over with Jesus! Make everything known, Bear nothing alone, Talk it over with Jesus! 2 Are you discouraged? is sorrow your guest? Talk it over with Jesus; Do you despair? does the tempter molest? Talk it over with Jesus. [Refrain] 3 Does some wild tempest sweep over your soul? Talk it over with Jesus; All things are under his blessed control; Talk it over with Jesus. [Refrain] 4 If you are wearing the fetters of sin, Talk it over with Jesus; Surely he’ll help you your freedom to win; Talk it over with Jesus. [Refrain] Tune Title: [If in the valley of trouble you dwell]

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James Rowe

1865 - 1933 Hymnal Title: Calvin Hymnary Project Author of "Talk it Over With Jesus" Pseudonym: James S. Apple. James Rowe was born in England in 1865. He served four years in the Government Survey Office, Dublin Ireland as a young man. He came to America in 1890 where he worked for ten years for the New York Central & Hudson R.R. Co., then served for twelve years as superintendent of the Mohawk and Hudson River Humane Society. He began writing songs and hymns about 1896 and was a prolific writer of gospel verse with more than 9,000 published hymns, poems, recitations, and other works. Dianne Shapiro, from "The Singers and Their Songs: sketches of living gospel hymn writers" by Charles Hutchinson Gabriel (Chicago: The Rodeheaver Company, 1916)

Edmund S. Lorenz

1854 - 1942 Person Name: E. S. Lorenz Hymnal Title: United Praise Composer of "[If in the valley of trouble you dwell]" in United Praise Pseudonymns: John D. Cresswell, L. S. Edwards, E. D. Mund, ==================== Lorenz, Edmund Simon. (North Lawrence, Stark County, Ohio, July 13, 1854--July 10, 1942, Dayton, Ohio). Son of Edward Lorenz, a German-born shoemaker who turned preacher, served German immigrants in northwestern Ohio, and was editor of the church paper, Froehliche Botschafter, 1894-1900. Edmund graduated from Toledo High School in 1870, taught German, and was made a school principal at a salary of $20 per week. At age 19, he moved to Dayton to become the music editor for the United Brethren Publishing House. He graduated from Otterbein College (B.A.) in 1880, studied at Union Biblical Seminary, 1878-1881, then went to Yale Divinity School where he graduated (B.D.) in 1883. He then spent a year studying theology in Leipzig, Germany. He was ordained by the Miami [Ohio] Conference of the United Brethren in Christ in 1877. The following year, he married Florence Kumler, with whom he had five children. Upon his return to the United States, he served as pastor of the High Street United Brethren Church in Dayton, 1884-1886, and then as president of Lebanon Valley College, 1887-1889. Ill health led him to resign his presidency. In 1890 he founded the Lorenz Publishing Company of Dayton, to which he devoted the remainder of his life. For their catalog, he wrote hymns, and composed many gospel songs, anthems, and cantatas, occasionally using pseudonyms such as E.D. Mund, Anna Chichester, and G.M. Dodge. He edited three of the Lorenz choir magazines, The Choir Leader, The Choir Herald, and Kirchenchor. Prominent among the many song-books and hymnals which he compiled and edited were those for his church: Hymns for the Sanctuary and Social Worship (1874), Pilgerlieder (1878), Songs of Grace (1879), The Otterbein Hymnal (1890), and The Church Hymnal (1934). For pastors and church musicians, he wrote several books stressing hymnody: Practical Church Music (1909), Church Music (1923), Music in Work and Worship (1925), and The Singing Church (1938). In 1936, Otterbein College awarded him the honorary D.Mus. degree and Lebanon Valley College the honorary LL.D. degree. --Information from granddaughter Ellen Jane Lorenz Porter, DNAH Archives